If it is believed that the project will create negative externalities to Thailand, then we have the full rights to oppose it. You cannot concern only your own sovereignty since the negative externalities that are believed to spill over the border should be considered as harming the Thai's sovereignty too.
If it is believed that the project will create negative externalities to Thailand, then we have the full rights to oppose it. You cannot concern only your own sovereignty since the negative externalities that are believed to spill over the border should be considered as harming the Thai's sovereignty too.
If it is believed that the project will create negative externalities to Thailand, then we have the full rights to oppose it. You cannot concern only your own sovereignty since the negative externalities that are believed to spill over the border should be considered as harming the Thai's sovereignty too.
Khun Koratboy krub,
I do some research about environment. your country (Thailand) is 10 polluted than Laos.
If it is believed that the project will create negative externalities to Thailand, then we have the full rights to oppose it. You cannot concern only your own sovereignty since the negative externalities that are believed to spill over the border should be considered as harming the Thai's sovereignty too.
Khun Koratboy krub,
I do some research about environment. your country (Thailand) is 10 polluted than Laos.
Then so what? Even if Thailand has thousand times more pulluted, my argument about the rights is still stand. Your rebuttal attacks irrelevant point.
If it is believed that the project will create negative externalities to Thailand, then we have the full rights to oppose it. You cannot concern only your own sovereignty since the negative externalities that are believed to spill over the border should be considered as harming the Thai's sovereignty too.
Khun Koratboy krub,
I do some research about environment. your country (Thailand) is 10 polluted than Laos.
Then so what? Even if Thailand has thousand times more pulluted, my argument about the rights is still stand. Your rebuttal attacks irrelevant point.
If it is believed that the project will create negative externalities to Thailand, then we have the full rights to oppose it. You cannot concern only your own sovereignty since the negative externalities that are believed to spill over the border should be considered as harming the Thai's sovereignty too.
Khun Koratboy krub,
I do some research about environment. your country (Thailand) is 10 polluted than Laos.
Then so what? Even if Thailand has thousand times more pulluted, my argument about the rights is still stand. Your rebuttal attacks irrelevant point.
If it is believed that the project will create negative externalities to Thailand, then we have the full rights to oppose it. You cannot concern only your own sovereignty since the negative externalities that are believed to spill over the border should be considered as harming the Thai's sovereignty too.
Khun Koratboy krub,
I do some research about environment. your country (Thailand) is 10 polluted than Laos.
Then so what? Even if Thailand has thousand times more pulluted, my argument about the rights is still stand. Your rebuttal attacks irrelevant point.
Sahai Koratboy, you don't get what the other guy were saying Yo and you're full of ****, you people don't qualify to talk about environment and there's no such thing that Laos would hurt your Dam environment, only your Thailand would hurt Laos and Cambodia envirobment. Why ? beacuse we do not have an industrial parks like you people. So our environment still 80% cleaner than your Thailand. So shut the f'k up.
The comparing of the forest areas of Laos and Thailand is completely different. So get back and look at your own country first before putting your head into Laos.
If it is believed that the project will create negative externalities to Thailand, then we have the full rights to oppose it. You cannot concern only your own sovereignty since the negative externalities that are believed to spill over the border should be considered as harming the Thai's sovereignty too.
Khun Koratboy krub,
I do some research about environment. your country (Thailand) is 10 polluted than Laos.
Then so what? Even if Thailand has thousand times more pulluted, my argument about the rights is still stand. Your rebuttal attacks irrelevant point.
-Then so what ? so what my Dick,
- Even if Thailand has thousand times more polluted, My argument about the right is still stand .
What Right are you talking about YOU Khoueyratboy ? WHO THE HELL DO YOU THINK YOU ARE ?
LET ME TELL YOU WHAT ? I DO WHAT IS RIGHT FOR MY COUNTRY.
The comparing of the forest areas of Laos and Thailand is completely different. So get back and look at your own country first before putting your head into Laos.
The comparing of the forest areas of Laos and Thailand is completely different. So get back and look at your own country first before putting your head into Laos.
The comparing of the forest areas of Laos and Thailand is completely different. So get back and look at your own country first before putting your head into Laos.
The comparing of the forest areas of Laos and Thailand is completely different. So get back and look at your own country first before putting your head into Laos.
Buk NGO Khouy rath thai wouldn't dare to come in Now, we tell him the true the whole truth nothing but the truth. someone even put the graphic in here , all lao can see that our country laos still has a lots of empty land and green.
ha ha, I think the thai guy probably finding some information to fight us... But he couldn't. I wish he come back and debate us again 55.
First of all, I would like to clarify something about myself and my argument. I am half Lao-Thai(but none of my family members can speak Lao) and I have no intention to defame or mean to any Laos people(since my girlfriend is also Lao) and lastly, I'm not an NGO. However, as I can see from many of your arguments, you were mostly throwing several kinds of fallacies in order to attack me and my argument which is rarely used in the educated society.
The only stance of mine in the comment only stated that I do support the right of NGOs to against the project if it is believed that the project will create negative externalities to Thailand. This does not at all mean that I support the NGO themselves, but rather, I support the rights of them. Most of the time that the Thai NGO has come out and protest, I am not quite happy with that. However, I still appreciate their rights to do so.
That is my argument
Ok next, I will logically respond to each of your comments
1. Sahai Koratboy, you don't get what the other guy were saying Yo and you're full of ****, you people don't qualify to talk about environment and there's no such thing that Laos would hurt your Dam environment, only your Thailand would hurt Laos and Cambodia envirobment. Why ? beacuse we do not have an industrial parks like you people. So our environment still 80% cleaner than your Thailand. So shut the f'k up.
Answer: If you go back and read my statement again, you will see that I did not ever mention on the environment issue( Even if I did, you cannot simply tell me that I have no rights(your word: qualify) to talk. The only way you can argue is to attack directly on that particular issue, by claiming I have no rights have no meanings at all in the debate)
you said there is no such things that Lao would hurt Thai environment. That might be right in the status quo(Has not been proved yet, even if it has, it still has nothing to do with my statement anyway) But still, repeat again, my statement is not the issue of whether in the status quo Thailand has pollution than Lao or not, but the issue would rather be, whether the NGO has the rights to against the project or not. (Of course, once again, I did not mean that they are right, they might even have been hired from some capitalist and that is not the right thing to do, however when it comes about the topic of rights, you cannot deny it)
I am not totally understand, but I will try to respond your comment
You are talking out of the topic, Thailand has a lot of skyscrapers because the natural resources that were used to feed them mostly came from Laos, Myanmar and Cambodia. I think you are right, Thailand received a lot of natural resources from its neighboring countries. However, again, It obviously has nothing to do with my argument.
You also stated that Thai destroy the environment more than Laos, I would kindly ask you to logically elaborate your argument further, then so what? How "by destroying the environment more than Laos" it will prevent the rights of NGO to protest against the project? I mean, I do not really see this point. Another issue would be the selfishness of Thai NGO, why they do not go protect the environment in their own country? This question can simply be answered by looking at their principal. Thai NGO will protect the environment on the behalf of Thai. They will go against any single project that it is believed that will create the negative externalities to their society. They actually do it and most of the Thai including me do not quite happy with them. The project in Laos is believe to create that undesirable externalities to the Thai(in the eyes of NGO), then they just go and against it. That's the point. Clear?
3. Thanks for posting the interesting information, I like it. However, when it comes to the debate issue. It proposes nothing new to attack me since it has nothing to do with the topic of NGO's rights. Your table is just "good to have, nice to know" but worth nothing for your stance.
4. What Right are you talking about YOU Khoueyratboy ? WHO THE HELL DO YOU THINK YOU ARE ?
LET ME TELL YOU WHAT ? I DO WHAT IS RIGHT FOR MY COUNTRY.
This comment I do not want to reply that long since there is no logic behind the argument. Jut a quick respond here, you do what you thing is right for your country. I totally agree with you and would not want to intervene your country's sovereignty. By claiming the NGO's rights does not mean that I will support them and it also does not mean that I intervene your sovereignty.
5. trading economics is the popular website used by economic student because it's free and mostly accurate :) My economic professor accepts them.
6,7. .... lol
8. I don't need to find any information to attack back since it is worthless in the debate. Rather, it is your job to find some good rebuttals to attack my argument back logically "why NGO has no rights to protest against the Lao project near the border?"
That's the point :)
I am waiting for your answer and will try to answer every single point you say. be reminded that the illogical argument and "feelings over the reasons" are not acceptable in the educated society So be careful when you write your argument, otherwise it will even destroy yourself.
I feel bad for you brother Korathboy, you lose this debate because nobody is on your side. Laos is too poor to talk about environment and global warming and so is the rest of the Asia continent.
I am not totally understand, but I will try to respond your comment
You are talking out of the topic, Thailand has a lot of skyscrapers because the natural resources that were used to feed them mostly came from Laos, Myanmar and Cambodia. I think you are right, Thailand received a lot of natural resources from its neighboring countries. However, again, It obviously has nothing to do with my argument.
You also stated that Thai destroy the environment more than Laos, I would kindly ask you to logically elaborate your argument further, then so what? How "by destroying the environment more than Laos" it will prevent the rights of NGO to protest against the project? I mean, I do not really see this point. Another issue would be the selfishness of Thai NGO, why they do not go protect the environment in their own country? This question can simply be answered by looking at their principal. Thai NGO will protect the environment on the behalf of Thai. They will go against any single project that it is believed that will create the negative externalities to their society. They actually do it and most of the Thai including me do not quite happy with them. The project in Laos is believe to create that undesirable externalities to the Thai(in the eyes of NGO), then they just go and against it. That's the point. Clear?
koratboy, it's useless talking to people in Laos, they are too dumb to understand how the rest of the world works. All they know is corruption and beer lao. The buddha said that not all people will be ready to see the truth because of ignorance, let them be. Laos is a country where people still think that the bigger vehicle is always wrong when there is an accident because it's the "bigger" vehicle. That in itself is enough said.
They have no concept of globalization. They don't know how to recycle or care to know how it would benefit them economically or environmentally, they are still a 3rd world country pretending to be a 2nd world country. It doesn't matter what the Laosy gov't says, they are controlled by the Viets, so better to go complain to them instead about Laos, although they won't care either, they just use and abuse Laos for their own greed, that's why it's in the state that it's in.
Everything about Laos is being exploited, the land, the natural resources, the people, even the animals. Laos died back in 1975 when the Viet commies took over and it continues to die til this day. NGO's can't help this place, look at Sombath. Other countries try to give money and help but it goes into the pockets of corruption.
You can't argue logically with these people. It's the same as with North Korea. They think they can do what they want, until one day they cross the line and they will get nuked.
Lao people in Laos are like sheep, they don't ask questions, nor do they stand up for what's "right". There is no protesting, no human rights. So they can't question their own gov't and the idiots that control them. Lao people don't have the liberties that we take for granted such as freedom of speech. Even this website censors negativity towards the Laosy gov't.
The people that you argue with on here are commie supporters, they have been brain washed to support their commie ways even if it's "right" or "wrong". That is the commie way, agree or die like a dog. I can't blame them for wanting to live so they agree with stupidity.
koratboy, it's useless talking to people in Laos, they are too dumb to understand how the rest of the world works. All they know is corruption and beer lao. The buddha said that not all people will be ready to see the truth because of ignorance, let them be. Laos is a country where people still think that the bigger vehicle is always wrong when there is an accident because it's the "bigger" vehicle. That in itself is enough said.
They have no concept of globalization. They don't know how to recycle or care to know how it would benefit them economically or environmentally, they are still a 3rd world country pretending to be a 2nd world country. It doesn't matter what the Laosy gov't says, they are controlled by the Viets, so better to go complain to them instead about Laos, although they won't care either, they just use and abuse Laos for their own greed, that's why it's in the state that it's in.
Everything about Laos is being exploited, the land, the natural resources, the people, even the animals. Laos died back in 1975 when the Viet commies took over and it continues to die til this day. NGO's can't help this place, look at Sombath. Other countries try to give money and help but it goes into the pockets of corruption.
You can't argue logically with these people. It's the same as with North Korea. They think they can do what they want, until one day they cross the line and they will get nuked.
Lao people in Laos are like sheep, they don't ask questions, nor do they stand up for what's "right". There is no protesting, no human rights. So they can't question their own gov't and the idiots that control them. Lao people don't have the liberties that we take for granted such as freedom of speech. Even this website censors negativity towards the Laosy gov't.
The people that you argue with on here are commie supporters, they have been brain washed to support their commie ways even if it's "right" or "wrong". That is the commie way, agree or die like a dog. I can't blame them for wanting to live so they agree with stupidity.
Laos = commie dictatorship
Thailand = democratic with a royal figurehead
buk hum = ເປັນຫຳໃຫຍ່ ຫຼື ຫຳນ້ອຍ ເສືອກຫຍັງມາດູຖູກຄົນລາວ (They have no concept of globalization. They don't know how to recycle or care to know how it would benefit them economically or environmentally, they are still a 3rd world country pretending to be a 2nd world country Lao people in Laos are like sheep, they don't ask questions, nor do they stand up for what's "right". There is no protesting, no human rights. So they can't question their own gov't and the idiots that control them. Lao people don't have the liberties that we take for granted such as freedom of speech. Even this website censors negativity towards the Laosy gov't) ມັນເປັນຫຳແບບໃດຫວະ ສົງໄສວ່າຈະເປັນຫຳຫົດ ຫຼື ຫຳລີບນີ້ແຫຼະ ຮ່າໆໆໆໆ ບໍ່ມີໃຜລ້າງສະໝອງພວກກູດອກ ມຶງນັ້ນແຫຼະໂງ່ເອງ ບັກຫຳເອີ່ຍ
1. I feel bad for you brother Korathboy, you lose this debate because nobody is on your side. Laos is too poor to talk about environment and global warming and so is the rest of the Asia continent.
I will lose the debate only if I you do a great job on attacking my argument and I fail to response it, not simply because nobody is on my side. Being poor or rich does not matter to the fact that Thai NGOs still have the rights to protest(even if they are wrong)
No matters who I am, the logic is still there. If you go back and see my comments in every single lines. Never had I suggested what is right or wrong for your country. I agree with you that everything comes with its own costs so you need to trade off pros and cons. However, when you talk about the rights, it is global concepts. You cannot deny other people' rights since those rights are owned by them ,not you. So it is their choice whether or not to exercise the rights they have, not your choice.